Dezeen podcast: in this podcast for the Design Museum in London, industrial designer Dieter Rams talks to managing director of furniture brand Vitsœ Mark Adams about an exhibition of his work at the museum.

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In the podcast Rams talks about the meaning of his phrase "less but better", the significance of systems in his work and his advice to the next generation of designers.

The exhibition presents work spanning 40 years, and includes products designed by Rams for German electronics brand Braun and furniture brand Vitsœ.

The show continues at the museum until 7 March 2010.

Photographs are by Luke Hayes.

Here's some more information from the museum:

Less and More - The Design Ethos of Dieter Rams

For 40 years, from 1955 until 1995, Dieter Rams designed or oversaw the design of over 500 products for the German electronics manufacturer Braun, as well as furniture for Vitsœ.

Audio equipment, calculators, shavers and shelving systems are just some of the products created by Dieter Rams, each item holds a special place in the history of industrial and furniture design and has established Dieter Rams as one of the most influential designers of the late 20th century.

This exhibition is the first UK definitive retrospective of Dieter Rams’ career in over 12 years. Showcasing landmark designs for both Braun and Vitsœ, this exhibition will examine how Dieter Rams’ design ethos inspired and challenged perceptions of domestic design and assesses Dieter Rams’ lasting influence on today’s design landscape.

Archive film footage, models, sketches, prototypes and images taken by international photographer Todd Eberle will be displayed alongside specially commissioned interviews with Dieter Rams’ contemporaries, which include Jonathan Ive, Jasper Morrison, Sam Hecht and Naoto Fukasawa.

Dieter Rams’ elegant products challenged original concepts of design thought by reducing electrical switches to a minimum and arranging them in an orderly manner, transparent plastics and wooden veneers were mixed and colour schemes were limited to tones of pure whites and greys, the only splash of colour being allocated to switches and dials.

Dieter Rams defined an elegant, legible, yet rigorous visual design language, identified through his ‘Ten Principles’ of good design, which, amongst others stated that good design should be innovative, aesthetic, durable and useful.

Heavily influenced by the Bauhaus and Ulm School of Art in Germany, Dieter Rams pioneered a design spirit which embraced modernity and placed functionality above everything else, resulting in designs that were free of decoration, simple in function and embodied a cohesive sense of order.

Born in Germany in 1932, Dieter Rams trained in architecture and interior design before joining Braun in 1955 where he took advantage of electronic and engineering advances made during the Second World War to realise a sophisticated re-interpretation of domestic appliances.

18 November 2009 - 7 March 2010

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